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Dankness Lava	May 8 2016, 10:49 PM Post #16
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Does that have to mean it's not sentient?



Zoom	May 9 2016, 12:47 AM Post #17
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	Read into e=mc squared.



+ Ginyu	May 9 2016, 10:25 AM Post #18
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Eternal Agony May 8 2016, 09:11 PM Is it honestly logical for rules to just be there with no apparent cause? Well, something has to be there without cause. You think the rules of the universe have a creator. But continuing to follow your logic, that creator must have a cause, therefore another creator, and that creator must also have a creator, and so on. It's an infinite loop. People just assume that creation is so logical, but it really isn't. Us humans have never truly witnessed creation, When we "create" things we're really just rearranging molecules and atoms. SSj4 Gotenks May 9 2016, 12:47 AM Read into e=mc squared. Perhaps you should do the same if you think it's relevant to this discussion.
	Ask GinyuTokusentai


Buuberries	May 9 2016, 10:48 AM Post #19
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	Eternal Agony May 8 2016, 10:49 PM Does that have to mean it's not sentient? why would it be sentient and what are your reasons for thinking it might be sentient???
	¯\(°_o)/¯


Dankness Lava	May 9 2016, 01:11 PM Post #20
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Because rules just existing doesn't seem very logical. I feel a sentient cause needs to be at play. Edited by Dankness Lava, May 9 2016, 01:12 PM.



+ Pelador	May 9 2016, 01:25 PM Post #21
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	But that's not logical either. And rules don't just exist. They're a consequence of the properties of a thing. Like how water is not solid because the particles aren't stuck together like they are with a solid. Edited by Pelador, May 9 2016, 01:26 PM.
	http://www.youtube.com/user/jonjits


Dankness Lava	May 9 2016, 01:34 PM Post #22
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Why isn't that logical? And why is the consequence a must?



+ Pelador	May 9 2016, 01:48 PM Post #23
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	A sentient would need an infinite series of prior sentients unless you believe they appeared from nothing. It's called cause and effect. A basic principle of the universe. Everything has it. If you find something that doesn't then you probably deserve the Nobel prize.
	http://www.youtube.com/user/jonjits


Dankness Lava	May 9 2016, 01:54 PM Post #24
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Well let's say time is a concept only the universe in under control by. The creator of the universe, being out of the confines of it naturally, has no aging capability. Imagine time not being a concept to the creator at all. Hopefully this makes sense.



+ Pelador	May 9 2016, 02:34 PM Post #25
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Time is not a concept. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime Yes it is used as a scalar as well but at the same time it's a physical thing which can be manipulated and distorted like water.
	http://www.youtube.com/user/jonjits


Dankness Lava	May 9 2016, 02:55 PM Post #26
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	I worded my post poorly. Time is universal it says. So if there is a creator of the universe, couldn't that creator be outside of the confines of time as well as the universe? That's not incomprehensible is it?



+ Pelador	May 9 2016, 03:26 PM Post #27
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	That's perfectly reasonable actually but something would still need to cause the creation of the creator somewhere even if not in our own universe.
	http://www.youtube.com/user/jonjits


Dankness Lava	May 9 2016, 03:29 PM Post #28
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	That seems like a whole 'nother discussion though to be perfectly honest.



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